Very interesting indeed: which is why i just purchased XLN AD2 w/ metal + United heavy + studio rock + black velvet ad paks with the midi paks and got the whole bundle combo for $93!!! That value and package would win in a wallet test against any of these, as I’ll literally never need another metal adpak or kit.
Groove agent 4 vs groove agent se 4 windows#
So really without Logic in the mix since it’s not really fair that Windows can’t compete with a proprietary OS X audio unit, it became clear depending on the camp, most metal and rock guitarists with less midi savvy and programming ability but like out of the box premade kits tend to prefer XLN, whereas guitarists who know their way around making and tweaking a drumKit like an actual (VST) and aren’t concerned about midi, whether it be groove packs or self made, prefer SD3s ability for sound customization Its almost fascinating to me how this reflects my own empirical evidence of Supporting an observation which is basically you have SSD and EZD2 then you have XLN and then you have BFD3 and SD3 and finally you have much more specific, smaller devs like Jamstix, MDrummer vs avid air strike 2 (which sucks) and steinberg Groove agent 5 (which is as good as BFD3 to me)are trying to emulate the AI of Apple Logic drummer, which again reflects the superiority of steinberg to avid, which was another substantiating little tertiary result but finally steinerg tried to match Logic but GA5 isn’t close to Drummer, nothing is.
Groove agent 4 vs groove agent se 4 how to#
That’s the biggest difference and issue to me all other and else aside, as I do think XLNs preset kits are the best out of the box sounding for my taste, their midi and song editing “transform” is much easier and very good compared to everything else (except Jamstix) but I know toontrack doesn’t do it, BFD sort of has a “jam” option where it will randomize groove patterns during playback in a certain set of grooves, but it’s cumbersome and not quite certain how to affect the variables,’ so out of the “Big 3” or Clearly the top 3 independent companies(toontrack, fxpansion, and XLN) the best programming and coding is for XLN and GUI. To me this was very interesting to see, very surprising polls, but then again, if soundkit tweakability and fine kit tuning is the reason then that also explains why an FAS forum would rather have that options rather than a stronger general MIDI/groove station. Most people voted for XLN in “blind tests” on other sites, almost the exact opposite of what these results yielded for only those two respective options oddly enough the rest of the voting seems to be almost the same. so using that info I looked online specifically for XLN AD2 vs SD3 and I was surprised by the results.
I’d use those!įor me, XLN midi packs and their song maker and midi transformer are really Unique tools that toontrack doesn’t have and I don’t think BFD3 does it either - at this point the clear independent 3rd party winners are SD3 (toontrack EZD2) and XLN. I’m just holding out for the Mike Portnoy, Danny Carey and Morgan Rose MIDI packs. They’re also good for showing you how drum patterns look over a grid and how it all fits together. The MIDI packs, the ones played by actual drummers, when you load them up in the piano roll of your DAW, you can see exactly how every velocity is set and they’re never all at 127. If you’re not a drummer or don’t have a lot of knowledge of how hard they hit specific drums and why, it can be confusing.
If everything is at 127 all the time, your drums will sound like a robot. The biggest pain in the ass with virtual drums is programming velocities. The packs are pretty good and I recommend buying at least one or two simply because they’re a great teacher when it comes to velocities. At most, I’ll use the fills or if I’m trying to figure out the next section of a song, I’ll audition some of the MIDI’s to see if they bring up any inspiration. I have a TON of MIDI’s but I rarely use them, like VERY rarely. I’m a masochist and write my drum parts out in their entirety by pointing and clicking with a mouse.
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